Apr 29, 2011
Playoff Blog
Dirk Nowitzki gets better with time
I never thought I would ever say anything positive about this David Haselhoff groupie, but his play has left me no choice. Over the years people have been fair to call him soft. The 07 playoffs against the Warriors was not his best, as he struggled against an eight seed as that season's MVP of the league. People won't let him forget that a team that he led was up 13 with eight minutes left in a game that would have put his team up 3-0 in the finals-and lost the game...and series eventually. We think about the Mavs teams of the early 2000's with Ulysses S.Nash as the starting point guard spot, and that a team with those two great weapons never did anything in the playoffs.
I wont make excuses for the poor play in some of those situations for Dirk, but we can put those moments in context. In 07 I'm not sure how many teams if any would have beaten that Warriors team in the first round the way they played. I thought the series had a lot more to do with Golden State winning than it did with the Mavs losing. The Warriors played out of their minds confident basketball, and the electricity of their home crowd made the OKC crowds of this years playoffs seem like a Nets home game in January. People will forget that the Warriors would actually have won that series in 5 games had Dirk not been nothing short of spectacular at the end of that game to save the Mavs. The Miami series was certainly another case for Dirk's "soft" label. However, most would agree that no series since the 2002 Lakers Kings series has been as poorly officiated. Unfortunately it was atrocious in favor of the Heat. Two games were so blatantly officiated in the Heat's favor, that I truly considered not watching game six of those finals-what was the point? As for the rest of Dirks playoff failures, I maintain that he's never had any help.
Name the best interior player he's played with. Go ahead. This may sound crazy (and also a blatant blond haired/mustached pairing) but give Dirk Larry Bird's roster, and vice versa and we may be looking at something that would change the way that we list the all-time greats. The name of the game in basketball is protecting the rim, rebounding, and getting easy buckets in the half court. Larry Legend happened to play with perhaps the all time best front court, while Dirk has played with Shawn Bradley, Eric Dampier, DeSagna Diop, Tyson Chandler, Chris Washburn, Bartolo Colon, and John Candy. Having an outstanding supporting cast gives you the opportunity to be one of the all time greats, and showcase your skills when everyone is watching in June, instead of only diehards in April. That's why Kobe is suddenly a top seven player ever with his cast, and Chris Paul may never crack the top 50, and Dirk may never crack the top ten.
The last few years Dirk has taken the criticism that he's soft, and actually developed into a pretty tough player. Aside from being without debate the most skilled big ever, he now is tough and a clutch performer. Last night when the Blazers had it rolling at home, and some scrub from the Blazers bench gave him a cheap shot, he responded by taking the game over, and leading his team to a road series clinching win in a hostile environment (including finishing the game 8/8 at the line in the final minute). Old Dirk would have let that psyche him out and folded. I've got to give him props for continuing to lead an old mediocre team to success. I've got to give him credit as his teams get consistently screwed by the officials because the rest of the league hates Mark Cuban (seriously-look up the numbers and tell me how Joey Crawford is still consistently assigned to Mavericks games-it's absurd), and he takes it in stride and never complains. For once I want to give Dirk some love, because he's earned it.
Terrible End of Game Coaching
I want to start this rant by saying that I think Lionel Hollins has done an outstanding job coaching the Grizzlies. Now I will bash him, and all coaches who think like him.
For all you coaches out there who are up three at the end of a game and don't foul-you are a disgrace to your job. I've just had enough. There's no reason that the Grizzlies shouldn't be preparing for a game one against the Thunder, instead of a game six against the Spurs. What a pathetic cop out to blame the players for not guarding the three point line well enough. They probably could have been a bit further out, but Gary Neal hit a double teamed fading three from thirty feet that the defenders forced him into. These are N-B-A players though, they all can hit tough shots that are defended well. You can't leave it to chance that a pro will make a great play, and just try and play tight defense at the end of a game.
I can name a lot of big games in the last few years where teams down three with a couple seconds left have tied the game on a three. How about somebody out there name a game, playoff or regular season where the opposing team tied it up down three when they've been fouled? The odds are so low that every part of that equation will go right that you almost never see it?
So what is the argument coaches make against fouling up three? Rubbish.
It's that you never want to go from a situation where you take the situation from worse case scenario tie-to worse case scenario that you lose. This may be the most insane argument I've heard in my life. Let's walk through what it would take for that to happen. The team down three would be fouled with somewhere in the ball park of 2-6 seconds left. That player would first have to make the first free throw-no guarantee at all. The next step is having the shooter miss the second free throw purposely and perfectly. No easy task, how many times have we seen the shooter by mistake make the second free throw, or throw it off the back board without hitting rim, both of which end the situation. We will assume that the shooter misses. The ball has to get a lucky bounce AND one of the three big men you've put in the game to get the rebound has to ta the rebound. That miracle tap on the miracle perfect miss would then have to go to the maybe two people on the floor who can shoot threes (remember you've put all your big in to get the rebound). That person must then catch the ball, be behind the line, and take what will more than likely be a rushed contested three as time is running down and your momentum takes you away from the basket (because you've had to sprint to the three point line with time running down) and make the shot. There's a reason you probably can't come up with a single game that this has ever happened-because it's nearly impossible to do. Using the logic that it's possible to lose is like not eating your lunch today because a plane could crash into you while you're eating. Yea it could happen, but it never will.
If the Grizzlies go on to lose this series,theycan point to this idiotic end of game strategy that their coach, along with others use. I bet Pop would have fouled.
Quick hits
-I bet Stan Van gets unfairly fired in the off-season. The truth is that Dwight doesn't take the game serious, and his supporting cast are all hasbeens as it turns out. To let that Hawks team beat you in a seven game series is pathetic, and the Magic will use poor Stan as a scapegoat.
-The Bulls will struggle with the Hawks and the series will go six or seven, but the Bulls will ultimately prevail, as Boozer has to do something eventually-right?
-Despite Dirk's great play, the Lakeshow will steamroll the Mavs like one of my steamy poop logs cutting through the water
-Russell Westbrook needs to stop whining because a point guard never should take 30 shots in a game unless he's totally unconscious. If he grows up they will handle Memphis or San Antonio in six.
-Grizzlies will survive their late game blunder, and drum the Spurs tonight.
Until next time kiddies
Apr 27, 2011
NBA Playoff Blog
-Chris Paul is a monster
Take a quick moment and compare the two rosters of the Hornets and Lakers. When it's an argument between Carl Landry and Trevor Ariza for New Orleans number two option, it's a miracle you've even made the playoffs. Now consider that neither one of those players wouldn't even crack the Lakers rotation, and that's no joke.
You can't say that it's coaching because well, PHIL JACKSON is on the opposing bench. That leaves only one factor...Chris Paul. The amazing part is that watching him play, he's at least a step slower after his knee injury from last year. He's masterfully adjusted from being the quickest player in the world, to just quick, and hasn't missed a beat. Nobody plays as complete a game as Chris, and nobody plays with such garbage.
The fact that this is a competitive series is just unreal, and a tribute to Paul. After watching game five, the LAkers will win this series, they are just about as far on the other end of the talent spectrum as you can be, but kudos to Paul and Monty Williams for a masterful job.
-The Grizllies would have had a legit title shot with Rudolph Gay
I'm trying to be objective and not overreact to a good stretch of games, but Memphis is for real. They play with an edge that you only see among title contenders (07 Warriors being the other low seed with that swag), they really think they're better than higher seeded teams. Call me crazy, but based on their defense and great complement of big men (that statement would have produced bursts of laughter three years ago when talkng about Zebo and Pau's brother), I would put the current Grizzzlies as the third best team in the West behind LA and OKC. I watched a lot of their games this year, and Memphis played both of those teams well. If Memphis had Rudy Gay, they really could have contended...I mean it. For now I see them losing a six or seven game series to OKC, but they will give OKC a scare.
-Can't wait for Celtics Heat
For all the bozos who bash the current NBA, this series makes you look dumb. What more could you ask for. Factors that will determine this series
Apr 22, 2011
Checkout Time for New York and Denver
Springtime, the only little thing time
5.Slick Rick the Bus Driver
Venue: Berry Park Syracuse
Time: Summer 2005
Berry Park is perhaps the best outdoor competition in the Syracuse area. Back in the 80's and through today, you will catch some of the Orange there trying to play some outdoor ball. It goes without saying that like most great outdoor city venues, the patrons there are "characters." My buddy Jason and I decided to go there one night around seven (primetime there) to get some run. Now I will introduce our characters.
Our first main character was Jun, short for Junior (that's right-his nickname had a nickname!). Junior-at least then-was perhaps the most well known player at Berry. He was in his 30's but didn't look a day under 60. He was a CLASSIC O.G. He once opened a shoe store on S.Geddes street (a really bad section of Syracuse for any readers), and when my buddy and I went to check it out...there was one pair of shoes in the entire store. I', pretty sure the store was only there to do "other business." Anyway Jun had only one move, but it was lethal, and honestly unstoppable. He had a pullup jumper that he would simply take a dribble right, and cock the ball way behind his head as he shot it (his range was realistically 25 ft) and made about 75%-no joke. This and the fact that he was there everyday made him the unofficial leader of Berry Park.
Slick Rick was pretty much the opposite. He was a bus driver, and would show to the park acting like a fool. He would drive the bus to the park first of all, and would do dumb things like talk to us from the bus using the intercom-announcing that he had arrived. Take a moment and imagine that at an inner city park. What made it even better (or worse) was that he played in full body blackarmour and a black bum hat-a reason many nicknamed him Dark Wing Duck. Rick was also pretty obnoxious on the court. He talked a lot, and was one of those 6-4 guys who just shot threes and nothing else-one of those "big for no reason " kind of players. Nobody wanted Rick to play-ever.
This particular evening there were some pretty good runs going, and nobody wanted a fool like that ruining the games. What happened next would have made Rasheed Wallace give a standing ovation. I didn't hear this part, but my friend Jaysaid that Jun muttered something like "this muffin's never playing here again." Jun than proceeded to take the ball from a teammate. As Rick was approaching the sidelines to the court to start shooting around to warm up, Jun fired a fast ball at Rick...AND HIT HIM SQUARE IN THE FACE from about ten to fifteen feet away. As crazy as it sounds in print, it was surreal in person. Rick holding his face turned around, and rumor has it never came there to play again-I certainly haven't seen him.
4. The first five in five night game
Venue: IC PArk in Fayetteville
Time: Summer 2009
No frills, no great endings, just like it sounds. Ten people got together at 1:30 AM to play full court basketball with nothing but the light of my car as lumination. That's dedication.
3. The Dive
Venue: IC Park
Time Period: Spring of 2006
The perfect storm-that's the only way to describe it. It's what happens when a pickup game becomes perfection. Every element was there. Talent-check. Great weather-check. Close game-check. Signature moment-huge check.
Anyone who has ever played pickup knows that mist games are to fifteen win by two. This was the rule at IC. Unlike many parks though, IC did't have a rule like fifteen win by two, twenty one straight. You HAD to win by two. This gorgeous Sunday afternoon, you had a mix of good players, and of course two or three stoners. One of them (to protect the identity we'll call him P) was perhaps the most brain dead burnout I've ever seen in my life. It looked like when he tried to formulate a thought that smoke would come out of his ears, and he'd just fall asleep instead. He couldn't spell the word effort, much less exert any.
The game was tied at fourteen, as yours truly, and Mr. A as well call him, both got scorching hot. The next thing we all knew the game was tied at...31. That's right 31. Nobody wanted to have spent the last hour plus in a hard fought game and lose. That's where P comes in.
With the game tied at 31, his team had the ball. A flashy pass by Mr. A intended to a teammate looks as if it will surely sail out of bounds, giving my team the ball back at this crucial time.
The last line of hope for their team was P. Keep these facts in mind:
1.This pass was one that I'm not sure Manute Bol could have saved if he had Blake Griffin's ups.
2. P wouldn't have dove out of his house if it was on fire and he was diving into a swimming pool of weed, that's just not how he was.
At that moment P made the most spectacular dive I've ever seen anyone make. He was literally parallel to the ground, full extension. Getting to the ball was miraculous enough, but he amazingly saved it to a teammate. Later in the possession their team would score, and they would go on to win the game 33 to 31. The moment was so inspiring, I didn't even care that we lost. Even P understood the magnitude of a 31 to 31 game. Unreal
2. If Only he could Shoot
Venue: Archbald gym at SU
Time: January 09
This was the time period where I was probably playing the best basketball of my life. My two friends JAson and Tee would join me at Archbald gym at SU for ball at least two or three times a week. The competition there was off the charts on certain nights. It was another venue where players would show up from time to time. It had happened earlier in the year, when then freshman Kris Joseph showed up with his crew. My buddies and I literally ran his team out of the gym, it was like 15-6 or something. We were pretty cocky after that I gota admit.
So when Paul Harris showed up (notice this story is January 2009, right well Paul was in the middle of the Big East schedule) we were excited and more than ready to give him and his buddies a game.
Keep in mind that both teams played this game like it was game seven of the Finals. Our team storms out to a 14 to 4 lead.We were just firing two (pickup equivalent of a three) after two, and looked as if we were about to run another Orange out with an L. All we needed was one point.
My friend Tee is a large, and fairly mobile guy. He's a good defender especially if you're not lightning quick. He had the task of guarding HArris.
At the beginning of the game Tee forced him to shoot jumpers, which to no surprise worked out pretty well for us. For some reason though, once our team hit 14, we literally couldn't make a shot. We missed two fast break layups that would have won it. I missed a wide open ten footer, and there was a boat load of turnovers. It had turned into a war. Very slowly, and not all HArris by the way, they tied it up at 14. There was no win by two there, we played straight 15. After a flurry of misses on both ends as the result of great defense, Harris had the ball. I wish the next five seconds never happened.
Paul lulled Tee to sleep, then bursted right to the baseline in flash. He had beaten Tee clearly. In a game this hard fought, my instinct kicked in. Go help out was my thought. On my way over I figured that I ha plenty of time left as Paul was no joke, about ten eleven feet from the basket still. What I remember next was seeing him jump. He leaped right at me like a frigging wild animal coming towards it's pray in the grassland. I wasn't goin to give in. I was going to maul him and show him that I was tough. If I cop had been there he literally could have charged me wit assault I fouled him so hard. What also happened was that it made literally no difference to him. He powered through me like I wasn't there, and I kid you not unleashed one of the most viscious dunks ever right on my head. I'm talking like as good as Rose dunking on Dragic. He also let out the loudest scream I've ever heard as he did it.
Looking back at perhaps the most embarrassing moment of my life I'm glad it happened. It was such an athletic feat to do what he did that I was happy to be part of it. You would have totally understood if you saw it.
1.Crazy J-Rich
Venue:Onondaga Community College
Time:November 2006
Our first semesters in college provided a lot of new faces. Our own Dannymacintosh was home on break from Ohio State, and I decided I wanted him to see the cats I was dealing with. I invited him to come watch an open run at OCC, so he could see the people that were my new family.
To cut to the cahse we will introduce you to the star of the story...J Rich. J Rich was at least 350 pounds at the time. He was also one of the craziest/scariest people I had ever met. He fouled people like he was in a hockey game checking, and at his size it was terrifying, and did I mention he was crazy. He would later that year beat up a kid quarter of his size so bad, that it took no joke five of us to get him off the kid. Hopefully that properly sets the stage.
As usual a fierce game was the root. He was playing against my team. Due to a bunch of incredibly lucky shots his team had jumped out to a 10-2 lead in a game to eleven (by ones and twos). Our team came storming back and tied the game. With the game being next pint win, I stole the ball and tip toed up the left sideline, and made a nifty move to lay it in and win the game.
Well I also had obviously stepped out of bounds, even I knew this, but I just wanted to get out of there with a win. J RIch was having none of that. He literally turned into the Incredible Hulk. IT was scary. Screaming at the top of his lungs, he would not go down with out a fight.
The OCC mens bball coach was the one who ran the open gyms, and he had a clipboard, that kept track of the next five players who would play winners. As the words "the next five" were coming out of his mouth, J Rich grabbed the clipboard out of his hands, and smashed it to pieces on the ground. We all stood there like the kids in the Sandlot when Benny hit the guts out of a baseball. Who smashes a clipboard? For the mere anger he felt in that moment, I will give him my number one spot. Hopefully there will be many more to come.
Apr 12, 2011
The Free Darko Eulogy
Yesterday, Client 9 informed me via facebook that FreeDarko was dead. Bethlehem Shoals found there to be some grander mission that mythologizing the NBA, and will just share his thoughts on FanHouse from now on. Their simple mission had been accomplished: Darko is now a regular part of the rotation for the Timberwolves and the Pistons are now the laughingstock of the League with the first walkout I've ever heard of in the NBA's history.
Apr 11, 2011
A post without proper spacing
Apr 9, 2011
Sox Win! Sox Win! Sox Win!
Notes on the Red Sox Championship Run 2011:
-Adrian Gonzalez looks like a lock for AL MVP--don't doubt my bona fides on this, I was the guy who picked Pedroia 1st overall in fantasy baseball in 2008 to much ridicule, only to have him go on to win MVP. I call 'em like I see 'em. Last time I checked going 2 for 4 every night with 2 RBI is a pretty good way to make your case.
-The old Pap is back! Guy burned heaters through the top of the vaunted Yankees lineup in his first save opportunity of the season. His stuff was decent in Spring Training and in the scrimmages against Texas and Cleveland, but now that we're trying I don't see anyone stopping him, or our four-headed bullpen monster of Pap, Bard, Jenks, and Wheeler. Eat your heart out, Philly!
-Every baseball fan knows there's only room for one truly obese reliever in any bullpen (the official title for this position is the Innings Eater), so I was glad to see we designated that bum Dennys Reyes for assignment. Bobby Jenks has the market cornered on fat relief on this team, meat. Maybe if you spent a little more time in the gym and a little less time at actual Denny's, you'd still be with the club. Either way, you get to watch someone serve up a Grand Slam! /booooooo
Speaking of food, I wholeheartedly agree with Girardi Party's assessment that we need a lifestyle section at the Buzzer focusing on food, drink, entertainment, etc. I don't know what we should call it yet, but here are a few suggestions I have to enhance your baseball viewing experience this week:
-I've tried and failed to find a way to stream radio broadcasts of MLB games online for free while I'm at work--as far as I know, it can't be done. MLB is extremely rigorous about protecting their stuff. So I signed up for MLB Gameday Audio ($19.99) and haven't looked back--you can choose the home or away broadcast in English or Spanish (Benito Juanes only) for every game on the MLB schedule. This even allows me to do the Ben Johns Commemorative "Watch The TV Broadcast On Mute And A Two-Second Lag And Listen To The Radio Guys Instead" move when I want to watch the Nationals, but don't want to listen to those jokers on MASN talk about Jayson Werth's beard every single broadcast. For you guys who are in better baseball markets, this might not matter--I know it's Yankees/Mets in Syracuse and I'm guessing it's Phillies/maybe Pirates in Philly, but when the AL team in your market is the (first-place!) Orioles, you have to get crafty.
By the way--in the same vein that we shouldn't take the Sox' perfomances in the Texas and Cleveland dress rehearsals too seriously, let's not all shit ourselves just yet over Baltimore. Remember 2005, when the O's (carried by Miguel Tejada) and Nats (carried by Nick Johnson, of all people) were in first place for most of the first half of the season? How'd that work out? Sure, that team can hit--a middle of the order of Reynolds, D. Lee, and Vladdy should scare anybody--but when your ace is Jake Arietta, I'm not inking you in for the playoffs just yet.
-Food: I have no basis for this, but I feel like football is a pizza sport and basketball is a wings sport. I don't know what to eat when watching baseball, aside from Mama Dep's Famous Butterless Popcorn of course. Help me out here, I'm waffling between Shrimp Poppers, Toast Taco, or Chef's Choice.
-Drink: Old Style!

I'M BACK
Doggy-dog... I have finally been stricken with the inspiration to once again contribute to the Manual Buzzer.Sports is the main focus of this blog, but this is a slow week or so for sports. The UConn Huskies just delivered one of the least-satisfying Title Games of all time, the NBA Playoffs—and those of something called the "N. H. L."—don't begin until next week, and the while Major League Baseball has finally returned, I forgot to show up for my Fantasy league's draft and was subsequently auto-drafted one of the worst teams ever assembled.
I was going to deliver a post about the end of the Syracuse basketball season, but everything was said pretty well by SteveDep, Pappy, and Danny Mac in the very entertaining podcast. I'll just quickly put in my two cents and say that I think you guys were a little tough on Jim Boeheim. The Marquette game was not his finest display of coaching—James Southerland, come on down?—but at this point, don't we kind of know what we're getting into with Jimmy B? More often than not, Top-100ish recruits (but not necessarily blue-chippers) who fit the system, and a very laissez-faire approach to in-game coaching that tends to result in disappointing post-season performances against more disciplined teams, but with a Final Four run thrown in every 10 years or so when the right pieces and matchups come together.
That Marquette debacle was not fun to watch, and neither was Butler last year (though Onuaku's absence mitigates that), or the A&M game in 2006, or the God-forsaken Vermont game in 2005, or any game against Pitt or Louisville this decade, but Boeheim is a heck of a coach and recruiter who has taken a medium-sized school in a desolate city nobody wants to live in and turned it into a top-10 all-time basketball program and has maintained a ridiculous level of consistent success over 30+ years. (Seriously, where else can this be matched? UCLA was just a few games over .500 a short time ago. UConn missed the NIT in a similar span. Even North Carolina floundered under Matt Doherty. Duke and Kansas are about the only schools that have matched Syracuse in terms of being consistently good over the span of Boeheim's career.)
I can't defend the guy to the death and I agree with a lot of what you guys said, but without Jim Boeheim, Syracuse would probably be a Temple/Xavier/Gonzaga (best case) or Seton Hall/Providence/DePaul (worst case) type program with mid-majorish talent. We'd be Notre Dame football post-1993, except minus those 70 years where we kicked ass. And despite all the crap that makes Boeheim frustrating to watch/root for, I'm not totally convinced the Hopkins torch will be passed without a hitch and I'm dreading the day Jimmy B finally does step down. It's easy to point out the negatives and take him for granted after another crippling loss, but I think we all knew this team never really had the legs to win a title, and on a large scale, the positives of Jim Boeheim far outweigh the perceived negatives.
I had another sub-post queued up to follow what was supposed to be a 100-word in defensor Boeheimis about the ridiculous new beer/shot combo, the Baghdad Pipe Bomb, but I need something to bring me back here. The Buzzer may—should?—have a semi-regular feature similar to the EDSBS Digital Viking Guide to Spicy Living about all things non-sports that contribute to our fine lives.
Apr 8, 2011
A Lesson for You Kiddies
Mar 30, 2011
Mike Krzyzewski is Also Delusional, Missed Point of Fab Five Documentary
Mar 20, 2011
Bracket: Busted
Mar 13, 2011
The Manual Buzzer Pick'Em Fart
A Message to Indiana State, Xavier, and Marquette, and the rest of the East Region
Mar 10, 2011
Michael Wilbon: Insane Reactionary
"If you don’t see something special in Derrick Rose, then you’re blind," Reinsdorf said. "We have an outstanding coach, an outstanding bunch of players, the team is deep, and if we stay healthy, we have an awfully good chance of winning at least four championships."Strangely enough, Wilbon uses the exact same quote in his article to demonstrate a Reinsdorf psychotic episode. Like the pot calling the kettle black, Wilbon should not be chiding Reinsdorf for speaking out of turn, when he decides to change the meaning of a quote so he can write an idiotic diatribe for his employer.
Mar 4, 2011
Spiritual over the Material: A College Athletics Oxymoron
Mar 1, 2011
Haterz Gonna Hate: A Facebook Argument Gone Wrong
This is a transcript of a Facebook argument between myself and a couple of kids that I go to law school with. Names have been redacted.
Starting with comments about the Los Angeles Clippers and the Baron Davis move, the conversation quickly became heated after an unprovoked attack on one of the NBA’s best players, LeBron James. Because it is such a long conversation, I am putting in bold the most provocative arguments, and a few editor's notes along the way.
As a call for sanity, can someone please affirm that I'm dealing with a fucking idiot?
Egyptian Kid who flunked out and blamed it on the situation in Egypt: Hey Clippers.... are you like, TRYING to suck even more? come on now, mo williams??? wow
Fucking Tool Who Wears One Sweatshirt:
They should just be playing Bledsoe and building for the future anyway, but I bet Mo plays. As long as he isn't in the playoffs, he's okay.
Egyptian Kid: Mo will play, Baron however, will drag out his "knee injury" and i highly doubt he dresses for cleveland. im trying to understand the rest of the mistakes going on in the nba today
Fucking Tool: Tons of craziness. Exciting, though.
We’ll call this kid 2 Cents, because he’s an OK guy: Fucking Tool, "As long as he isn't in the playoffs, he's okay." The same might be said for lebreezy.
Fucking Tool: True story. Everyone hypes that fluke 3 he hit in the playoffs to beat Orlando, conveniently forgetting he completely gave up versus the Celtics. Lebron is a playoff loser who rubbed off on Mo [Playoff loser? Who singlehandedly dismantled the Detroit Pistons in the 2007 Eastern Conference Finals?]
Me: OH COME ON MAN. GAVE UP? he had one bad game (game 5) where he shot 3-14 from the floor. the dude posted a 27pt, 10ast, 19reb TRIPLE DOUBLE in game 6. people who say he quit in that series clearly weren't watching him carry the entire team on his back. who wouldnt be dejected when mo williams and anthony parker combine to shoot 3-16 in game 2? haters gonna hate i guess.
Me: Miami heat your 2011 eastern conference champions
2 Cents: i picked the heat to win it all before the season started, but after "the decision." I'm not hating, i'm just saying, when push comes to shove, the legends win. we'll see.
Me: I am in complete agreement that "the decision" was a poor move, I don't think anyone disputes that. But let's not forget the highly under-reported tidbit of that the $2.5 million dollars in ad revenue was given directly to the boys and girls club of America. [All for the kids!]
Toolio: How often is the 4th-best team in the East crowned champions? :)
They will not beat Boston or Chicago in a 7-game series, and probably not Orlando, either. 2nd round and done, just like Flash before Shaq.
Tool: To be clear, haters will indeed hate. But respect is also earned, not given, and until Lebronze wins a ring, he gets no respect, no deference, not benefit of any doubt. Couldn't even win a gold medal without Kobe and Melo to carry him
Egyptian Kid: all i know is that in miami two guys are fighting over who gets to be batman and whos robin and then you have batgirl on the side (who goes 1-18 today). thats not championship anything. boston is a team of manchamps and my only respect on that squad of children is for d-wade who let shaq guide him to being the best player on that championship team. until leboy wins a finals series against a legit team hell never be what my man, and his new daddy after being dunked on in the ASG, Kobe already is.
Me: Oh my goodness. I could talk for hours about this, but to start, the only real threat to the heat is chicago. The kendrick perkins trade today leaves boston without any actual center. If the celtics truly believe that the O'Neal brothers and nenad kristic can play center in the playoffs, then god bless them, but they are sorely mistaken. I would take erick(a) dampier as my starting center before i put any of those three in there to bang with dwight.
Orlando is a complete mess. They have surrounded the best center in the league with 4 guys who are supposed to hit the 3, but its impossible for them to find any open looks when most of their offensive possessions start with the ball being dumped to Dwight in the post, and when he draws the foul (a league leading 11.4 free throw attempts per game), he only hits 59% of his "free" throws. A recipe for success? Highly doubtful.
With Noah back and Boozer and Rose playing as well as they have been, chicago will be tough to beat. I am dick riding chicago right now because derrick rose is the MVP, and keeping Noah instead of trading him for Melo will pay off in the long run. But even tonight, they won by 4 in a game where chris bosh went 1-18 from the floor. Bosh has been playing great as of late, and this game is clearly an aberration.
Let's talk about rings for a second. I am desperately awaiting the day that Adam Morrison's championship rings go on ebay, considering he's going to need cash at some point, and he's got two of them any way. My respect for Lebron stems from his unbelieve athletic ability and the FACT that he is the most complete player since magic johnson. You cannot expect him to have won in cleveland with that ridiculous group of guys they called a supporting cast. That point is PROVEN by the cavaliers dismal record thus far.
Rings don't mean SHIT when it comes to respecting a players game. No respect without a ring? Tell that to Steve Nash, Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton and Karl Malone. HATERS WILL HATE
Fuckin Tool: Don't forget Chicago. Noah annihilates Bosh, and Rose is possibly the best player in the NBA. Not to mention Boozer, who will always have a place in my heart for getting out of town when Lebronze was drafted; he knew well before the rest of us what his nature truly was. Loser and backstabber
Me: For the record, my only REAL problem with this whole conversation is the unbelievable amount of hate the media has instilled in people towards lebron james, including this idea that people know what lebron's "true nature" is. Have you met the guy? Do you really know what he is all about other than winning basketball games? The east is deep this year, and I will be the first to say Chicago looks great. Cant wait for the playoffs.
Fuckin Tool (Does this guy ever quit?): None of the players you named, JP, are top-20 players historically, OR the best at their position. [The players I named: S
And Lebron is FAR from complete, let alone "the most complete player since Magic Johnson." For starters, 35% 3-point shooting and 75% FT shooting is far from impressive;solid, but not impressive. He has no low-post game outside of his athletic ability. His defense is completely predicated on his athleticism as well; he has little skill, but makes up for it with pure athleticism; that does not, however make him good at defense. Finally, 3.7 TOs-per-game is horrible for someone who shares primary ballhandling duty with Flash.
Ask yourself where Lebron will be in 5 years when his athleticism has passed, and he's running on pure skill. Will you still think he's "complete"? He'd average 8 ppg if he were down to Kobe's athleticism, and that's the most damning argument against him being a "Complete" player
Tool: The media built Lebron, hyping him since his freshman year in high school, before he'd proven anything. It seems a bit ridiculous to then trash them for pointing out he's selfish, a liar, and has no loyalty.
And if Lebron is "All about" winning basketball games, he's awfully bad at his job. He thinks he's great at it, though, since he celebrates like he won the lottery after beating random teams in the regular season. [Ah yes, posting a .663 win % over the last 5 years ABSOLUTELY makes him bad at winning basketball games]
Egypt: i cant wait for the playoffs to start to jp, but let me tell u something my dear friend... those guys you mentioned are classy individuals that largely played for ONE team and they were THE MAN on that team. were not talking about the adam morrisons of the league or the rest of the role playing rubbish that teams have. im talking about a fundamental respect of the game, its fans, its purpose, its franchises, and its ideologies as far as being the franchise player and screwing over a whole city to create a powerhouse of other little boys on another team. its all about the kind of guy that a player is off the court as well as on it. D-Rose is my MVP too this year (and everyones im always on kobes sack so thats a huge step for me) but its because hes humble, coachable and a proven TEAMmate. it took kobe forever to learn that and it looks like lebaby is gonna have to learn it too.
Top guys to respect without rings: Jerry Sloan, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Pat Ewing, Reggie Miller, George Karl, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin. all of these guys share humility above all (except chuck)
Tool: All those retired guys you mentioned: choke artists. [Let's recap who these "choke artists" are: Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton and Karl Malone] Couldn't win in June (or make it there). Especially considering how many played in the mid-90s, when the NBA was at its weakest, it's sad to even mention those guys with the greats now. Send Timmy or KG back to 1990 and see how many rings they win. Malone is Amare with less athleticism and a history of statutory rape.
The Voice of Reason (Me): I truly believe your argument is based more on general hate than appreciation for the game. I encourage you to attend the Player Hater's Ball where you might be in the running for the coveted "Hater of the Year" title. I cannot understand how without meeting the fellow, or holding a conversation with him, that you can deem him "selfish, a liar, and [lacks] loyalty", based on a decision to leave a franchise where he had no contractual obligation, and won 60 regular season games in back to back seasons.
I have respect for every great player in the league, including Lebron James, who boasts a 28pt/7reb/7ast average for his short but clearly dominant career. As a Yankee fan, I despise the city of Boston and everything they stand for. But I harbor no ill will for Ray Allen (obviously) and even appreciate the intensity that Kevin Garnett brings to the game, even if he has the audacity to call alopecia stricken Charlie Villanueva a cancer patient. [Note: I do have a small issue with Paul Pierce being taken off the court in a wheelchair, only to return to score 15 points in the 3rd quarter of game 1 of the 2008 NBA finals. Sorry McKeevah, but all that was missing was a bloody sock] I greatly admire Carmelo Anthony and his ability to score. I am even more impressed with Kobe Bryant's seemingly inherent ability to make huge shots in the 4th quarter of games. There is truth to his characterization of himself as the Mariano Rivera of the NBA. But to say that Lebron James would average 8ppg in 5 years is not only ludicrous, it's asinine.
What is good defense in today's NBA, where basically every great scorer is an athletic beast off the dribble? The key to defense is lateral movement. Quickness in your lateral movement probably has something to do with athleticism no? The only case where great defense has not been defined by lateral movement are the tenacious defenders such as Bruce Bowen, Shane Battier and to some degree, Ron Artest.
In conclusion, I must reiterate that your arguments are based on general hate. "All those retired guys you mentioned: choke artists". I don't think many if any people with knowledge of the NBA would consider Reggie Miller, Steve Nash and Patrick Ewing, choke artists. Again, I will send you the application for the Player Hater's Ball
Conclusory Tool: Saying someone "Hates" another person doesn't prove its irrational or unfounded; hate can be completely logical and deserved.
Lebron held an entire city hostage [Holy shit, I did not realize that we were dealing with fucking Hans Gruber here], telling them he didn't know what he wanted to do. Does anyone really believe that? He absolutely screwed Cleveland, the state he grew up in, professed his love for, promised to bring a championship to. He's either a liar or a failure (or both).
And no, his career has not been "Dominant". 1 Finals appearance in 7 years, are you kidding? He peaked early, and now he is looking for other allstars to carry him. [Hmm... peaked early. Back to back MVPs? FINISH HIM!] He has pretty stats, but stats don't prove you're dominant; wins do.
And athleticism does not equal defense; athleticism equals athleticism. The guys you mentioned above: Bowen, Battier, Artest, they are far from the most athletic guys in the league, but they are, or were, its best defenders, and that title was based on skill. I understand the need to lessen or marginalize the role of skill in being a great player; if I were a Lebronze fan, I'd try that too. Because based on skill OR results, Lebronze is not in any great player discussion.
